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juici
Insatiable

Joined: Nov 23, 2001
Posts: 1359
Location: Ontario
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Dec 11, 2007 - 05:16 AM |
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Curious, as always...
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travellingcouple
Slut Puppy

Joined: Jan 29, 2007
Posts: 269
Location: Bradford (not Brantford) near Barrie
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Jan 14, 2008 - 04:42 PM |
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This poll needs to be placed in the hell's kitchen or it is invalid. |
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DavidM
Verified Couple

Joined: Aug 09, 2003
Posts: 5432
Location: Mid-Town Toronto
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Jan 14, 2008 - 09:24 PM |
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travellingcouple, I am puzzled. . .Why did you write that?
It is in the Bi-Choice forum where it is proper to have it. |
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travellingcouple
Slut Puppy

Joined: Jan 29, 2007
Posts: 269
Location: Bradford (not Brantford) near Barrie
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Jan 15, 2008 - 10:34 PM |
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But the data is limited to people heading to this forum, thus making the data invalid.
The poll should be in a common area that attracts all parties for the numbers to show validity. |
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Sandra
Verified Couple

Joined: Oct 03, 1999
Posts: 7586
Location: Toronto
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Jan 16, 2008 - 12:08 AM |
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FYI...as far as I am concerned NONE of these polls are valid because of the low numbers who respond to them, right forum or not. |
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couple4u
Insatiable

Joined: Dec 03, 2004
Posts: 5303
Location: oakville
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Jan 16, 2008 - 12:38 AM |
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Will someone get on the phone to gallop! FFS! |
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Curious4threesum
Newbie

Joined: Mar 18, 2006
Posts: 8
Location: Hamilton
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Jan 16, 2008 - 01:10 AM |
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Does it really matter what section it is in. I just thought is was a fun question / poll.
So just vote. Oh by the way my vote was YES |
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juici
Insatiable

Joined: Nov 23, 2001
Posts: 1359
Location: Ontario
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Jan 16, 2008 - 01:18 AM |
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travellingcouple
Slut Puppy

Joined: Jan 29, 2007
Posts: 269
Location: Bradford (not Brantford) near Barrie
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Jan 16, 2008 - 09:12 PM |
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I would imagine straight guys don't come in the bi room.
There goes the poll numbers! |
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Amanda69
Insatiable

Joined: Aug 19, 2003
Posts: 3528
Location: Mississauga
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Jan 16, 2008 - 11:26 PM |
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Anyone who wants can come into any room and vote in any poll...just because someone isn't bi doesn't mean they wouldn't read threads in this area... |
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sweetnectar
Slut Puppy

Joined: Jul 07, 2007
Posts: 694
Location: ontario
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Jan 16, 2008 - 11:41 PM |
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Travellingcouple are you anal?? |
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starstar69
Slut Puppy

Joined: Oct 22, 2006
Posts: 987
Location: GTA
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Jan 16, 2008 - 11:44 PM |
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ROTFL Sooooo funny sweetnectar |
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travellingcouple
Slut Puppy

Joined: Jan 29, 2007
Posts: 269
Location: Bradford (not Brantford) near Barrie
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Jan 17, 2008 - 12:24 AM |
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sweetnectar
Slut Puppy

Joined: Jul 07, 2007
Posts: 694
Location: ontario
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Jan 17, 2008 - 12:37 AM |
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no not do you like it, (I could tell) - are you anal?? |
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firebird
Insatiable
Joined: Dec 17, 2000
Posts: 2085
Location: oakville
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Jan 17, 2008 - 11:09 AM |
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I guess I will be the first to address the topic. Two women together seems very natural to me and is hot to watch. Two men together is a complete turn off. |
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HimandHer69
Verified Couple

Joined: Mar 12, 2007
Posts: 398
Location: Ajax
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Jan 17, 2008 - 11:29 AM |
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I am female and have never watched 2 guys go at it in person....but I would LOVE to see it...... |
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Sandra
Verified Couple

Joined: Oct 03, 1999
Posts: 7586
Location: Toronto
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Jan 17, 2008 - 12:40 PM |
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I've seen it, it does nothing for me and I don't want to see it again.
End of story. |
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taktow
Verified Couple

Joined: Oct 13, 2004
Posts: 360
Location: GTA
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Jan 17, 2008 - 01:14 PM |
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Nothing quite like the topic of bi men to bring out one of the biggest double standards in the lifestyle. (Certainly not the only double standard, but one of the most prevalent.)
P.S. Just curious - what makes two women together any more "natural" than two men?? If you are referring to evolution here then neither is "natural".
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g69er
Insatiable
Joined: Nov 10, 2005
Posts: 2213
Location: Toronto area
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Jan 17, 2008 - 01:57 PM |
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P.S. Just curious - what makes two women together any more "natural" than two men??
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Not sure taktow other then the fact its much easier to watch lol and for lot of guys and gals for that matter its something that either gives em woody or it doesnt
It realy comes down to what Sandra said and I agree with her .. it either does something for people or it doesnt , end of story . But to add on that , I dont look at anyone that does or doesnt any different . If they decent people what their oriantation is of no diff to me .
As for what traveling couple said about where the topic should go .. grow up . If the guy thats straight would vote obviously would be NO duhh .
For most part topics stay on main page until either interest wears off or everyone that ussualy has something to say , says it , or other posts knock it off the top ten..It doesnt matter what section it is in . Every ones in a while someone that doesnt read the msg board often or someone new brings old topic back . Myself sometime Ill bring an older topic back just to see if people evolved over time with their thinking . To me personaly its interesting to see if and how peoples views change over time .
Great job juici .. Maybe you should apply for unthankfull job lol  |
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Yawanna2
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Joined: Feb 28, 2007
Posts: 2528
Location: Wilder Slayer
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Jan 17, 2008 - 01:58 PM |
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P.S. Just curious - what makes two women together any more "natural" than two men?? If you are referring to evolution here then neither is "natural". |
So is my fantasy of seeing MsTaktow and MsTree strippin out of fuzzy shorts then making out to Barry Manilow music dashed?  |
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g69er
Insatiable
Joined: Nov 10, 2005
Posts: 2213
Location: Toronto area
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Jan 17, 2008 - 02:00 PM |
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Lol Y .. you following me ? Tree and taktow would rock throw k8 and illu to the mix and wow lol |
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DavidM
Verified Couple

Joined: Aug 09, 2003
Posts: 5432
Location: Mid-Town Toronto
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Jan 17, 2008 - 03:23 PM |
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Here is an article on Bisexuality from today's Globe & Mail that opines that Bi-sex is a "Third Orientation" although the writers also suggests that sexual orientation is a very fluid state that can change during a person's life.
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Bisexuality: a 'third orientation'
SIRI AGRELL
From Thursday's January 17, 2008 Globe and Mail
Bisexuality is not a phase or a period of experimentation that inevitably leads toward same-sex partnerships, new research has found, but a "third orientation" that remains distinctive over the years.
The study, which followed a group of 79 non-heterosexual women over a 10-year period, was published in this month's edition of Developmental Psychology.
The findings fly in the face of the popularly held notion within both straight and gay communities that bisexuality is not a real form of sexuality, but a temporary attraction, said Lisa Diamond, the University of Utah psychology professor who conducted the study.
"We're a culture that still has a very rigid notion of sexual categories: If you're not totally gay you must be totally straight," Dr. Diamond said. "Bisexuality throws that right out the window. So it's easier to dismiss bisexuality as not being real."
Of the women who identified as bisexual in 1995, 92 per cent identified as bisexual or unlabelled in 2005. Of the women who identified as lesbian in 1995, 66 per cent identified as lesbian 10 years later, 19 per cent had switched to bisexual and 16 per cent to "unlabelled." None of the women who identified as lesbians in 1995 switched to the heterosexual label.
But Dr. Diamond found that her subjects' definition of their own sexuality was quite fluid.
Seventeen per cent of respondents switched from a bisexual or unlabelled identity to a heterosexual identity at some point during the study.
But more than half of those women switched back to bisexual or unlabelled by the end of the 10-year period.
And of the women who identified as lesbian during the last round of interviews, 15 per cent reported having sexual contact with a man during the prior two years.
"The distinction between lesbian and bisexual women is not a rigid one," she said. "Like with most people, a lot seems to depend on who you happen to meet."
Bisexuality has not been the subject of much academic study over the years, Dr. Diamond said, and subjects who identify as bisexual are often excluded from studies of human sexuality because researchers do not know how to interpret their results.
"I've had journal editors say it would make for a much cleaner study if you just took them out," she said. "And that's exactly what keeps happening, so we know almost nothing."
Some of her subjects themselves said they were worried about participating because they felt their sexual histories involving both men and women were "bizarre."
"They didn't realize how normal they really were, and that's why I think it's important to get this information out there," she said.
Dr. Diamond believes her research will help many people understand their own sexuality and feel less uncomfortable about their seemingly competing attractions to men and women.
Over the 10-year study, the most common identity for women to switch to was unlabelled, she added, a message that may comfort young people who feel pressure to conform to either straight or gay lifestyles.
"One of my subjects explained it to her mom by saying, 'It's kind of like a garage,' " Dr. Diamond recounted. " 'I'd be happy driving a red car, I'd be happy driving a blue car, but I've only got a one-car garage.' "
Of the subjects who had babies during the period of the study, the majority were with male partners.
Most of the women who had children with female partners self-identified as lesbian.
Although her study followed only women, Dr. Diamond believes that bisexuality means different things to different genders.
"I do think there's enough evidence now that women's sexuality does appear to be more fluid than men's," she said. "I think it's a combination of biological and social factors. For women, there's a closer link between emotional connections to other people and their sexual feelings."
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wanker
Sex Fiend

Joined: Apr 08, 2007
Posts: 36
Location: Alliston
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Jan 17, 2008 - 03:46 PM |
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I am hetro 99% but the best bj I ever had was from a guy, took all my dick and swallowed, AND massaged my colan with his finger |
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Ruthy
Verified Couple

Joined: May 09, 2001
Posts: 4139
Location: Toronto
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Jan 17, 2008 - 06:34 PM |
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DavidM,
The fluid state makes lots of sense to me. It's life for real. |
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Svend
Sex Fiend
Joined: Jan 14, 2008
Posts: 84
Location: Toronto
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Jan 17, 2008 - 06:46 PM |
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Gay "naturalness" will change with social factors, a generation ago the idea of two women getting it on wasn't as accepted or considered as "hot" as it is today. For some it's becoming a cliche, almost boring.
I've known a few women that are very turned on by the idea of their guy trying out being with another man as an experiment.
Who knows where the future leads us? |
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Ruthy
Verified Couple

Joined: May 09, 2001
Posts: 4139
Location: Toronto
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Jan 17, 2008 - 07:38 PM |
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travellingcouple wrote: | Quote: | I would imagine straight guys don't come in the bi room. There goes the poll numbers!
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As long as the topic stays on the home page everyone gets to see the topic. |
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taktow
Verified Couple

Joined: Oct 13, 2004
Posts: 360
Location: GTA
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Jan 17, 2008 - 11:22 PM |
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lol Y! Never dashed. Barry Manillow music does crazy things to people, so who knows?!!  |
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Brat
Slut Puppy

Joined: Dec 31, 2005
Posts: 533
Location: Kitchener
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Jan 17, 2008 - 11:38 PM |
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| Quote: | | P.S. Just curious - what makes two women together any more "natural" than two men?? If you are referring to evolution here then neither is "natural". |
Conditioning.
If your ancestors, your parents, you, never saw a porn with two women but only two men, then that would be the accepted norm. Porn movies of two women are often soft and sensitive, where as ones with males are rough and crude. I think the movie brokeback was the first movie I have ever seen that depicted two males in love.
It's conditioning the same as "nice girls don't". and men are supposed to make more money, women vrs men in combat, (oh we are too emotional, you broke my fucking nail, take that you bastard.). lol
Your upbringing, your family's upbringing and ideas about sex and what they consider right or wrong is conditioned from a young age. If you were brought up in an environment of no predjudice then chances are you won't be either.
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taktow
Verified Couple

Joined: Oct 13, 2004
Posts: 360
Location: GTA
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Jan 17, 2008 - 11:49 PM |
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Very well said Brat.  |
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sweetnectar
Slut Puppy

Joined: Jul 07, 2007
Posts: 694
Location: ontario
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Jan 18, 2008 - 02:49 AM |
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teach your children tolerance and love - real true love |
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firebird
Insatiable
Joined: Dec 17, 2000
Posts: 2085
Location: oakville
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Jan 18, 2008 - 07:36 AM |
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I wasn't putting down gay men. I really don't care what they do. It is not turn on in any way for me. It may be the way I was brought up or what ever but it is a turn off for me and not something I enjoy watching at all. Maybe I find it natural for Gay or Bi women because they like women the same way I like women.Two women together are doing the same things I would enjoy with a woman so that could be a big part of why it seems natural for me to enjoy watching two women. |
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aslowhand
Sex Fiend

Joined: Feb 25, 2006
Posts: 39
Location: somewhere between heaven and hell
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Jan 18, 2008 - 12:28 PM |
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firebird maybe you can explain something I have never understood.Why is it that if two men have sex they are gay if two women have sex they are bi,if a man has many women they are a std if a woman has many men they are a slut. maybe it is just me but can anyone explain this. |
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taktow
Verified Couple

Joined: Oct 13, 2004
Posts: 360
Location: GTA
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Jan 18, 2008 - 01:15 PM |
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LOL Aslowhand! Too funny. Just a few more examples of the double standards out there......  |
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twistedtree
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Joined: Aug 29, 2005
Posts: 532
Location: Mississauga
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Jan 18, 2008 - 02:07 PM |
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Did someone say Barry Manilow,,, Tak, get your fuzzy shorts out, im cummin over.. |
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g69er
Insatiable
Joined: Nov 10, 2005
Posts: 2213
Location: Toronto area
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Jan 18, 2008 - 02:10 PM |
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whats a BarryManilow ??  |
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Yawanna2
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Joined: Feb 28, 2007
Posts: 2528
Location: Wilder Slayer
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Jan 18, 2008 - 02:13 PM |
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| twistedtree wrote: | | Did someone say Barry Manilow,,, Tak, get your fuzzy shorts out, im cummin over.. |
There is a god *jumps in car, to follow the sounds of Barry to Taks hottub* |
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couple4u
Insatiable

Joined: Dec 03, 2004
Posts: 5303
Location: oakville
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Jan 18, 2008 - 03:19 PM |
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taktow
Verified Couple

Joined: Oct 13, 2004
Posts: 360
Location: GTA
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Jan 18, 2008 - 09:19 PM |
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Hot tub temp is up. Cueing up some Barry as I type........  |
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MrsCandG
Slut Puppy

Joined: Jun 26, 2004
Posts: 423
Location: toronto
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Jan 18, 2008 - 11:22 PM |
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Aslowhand....you hit the nail on the head....so many ppl are willing to judge...
Everyone has their own thing that turns them on....be it golden showers...dbl penetration....fisting..etc....
I have been in orgies with male on male and I find it very exciting...intriguing...sometimes even sensual..
hey men can learn how to excite women by watching women on women....so why can't women learn by watching male on male...each gender knows exactly where our turn on points are...
ok....now lets all have an ORGIE!!!!LOL  |
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Amanda69
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Joined: Aug 19, 2003
Posts: 3528
Location: Mississauga
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Jan 19, 2008 - 01:16 PM |
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All heading over to MrsCandG's for an orgy yippeeee  |
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